Ron Hughes: Now, David, you have been answering some tough questions for us here on the program and today I want to ask you about some reports which I hear from time to time which indicated that ape DNA – DNA being those basic biological building blocks – and specifically chimpanzee DNA; it’s almost identical to human DNA. And this is put forward, as the authors of the report say, to prove that we come from the same genetic stock as the apes and that we share the same heritage.
Dr. Humphreys: Well, of course, the Bible says we have the same heritage, because Genesis two makes it clear we both made from dust. I don’t know a lot about the detailed differences between human and ape DNA, that’s something we should look into, but if you look at the seventh verse of Genesis two, Ron, – just thinking what the Bible says – it makes it clear that human beings like the animals come from the dust of the ground.
So the Bible makes it clear, man is physically similar to other mammals. I mean we are built on this carbon frame. We have the same elements. You could buy all the elements we are made of for about five dollars, by the way. Mind you, to put them together in all the compounds the body has synthesized them in – if we could make them; we can’t make half of them, only God managed to do that – but it would cost something like seven million dollars they tell me. So we’re worth something like seven million bucks, but the point is there are only 20 chemical elements essential for the direct operation of the human body and that’s true of mammals too. There are actually about thirty molecules, which build apes and humans. But you see God made man from the dust of the earth, so we’re physically natural beings who share a common biochemistry with the animals.
So it’s no problem at all if… I think there are some distinct differences, I haven’t looked into that, but that similarity doesn’t surprise me at all, because God formed man – and that’s like a technician making man, said the Bible – and then He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and he became a living being. Fortunately, the Bible also points out what we know, (because we can project the future and laugh and have emotions and act very distinctly) that we are spiritual beings as well.
Ron Hughes: David, we began talking about DNA and ended up talking about what the Bible says about creation. I’m curious about how your knowledge of science, which is of course considerable, has affected your appreciation for God.
Dr. Humphreys: Well, that’s of course, the bottom line for me because you see what science has done for me is given me a lot of technical information. So that the magnitude of space and the incredible detail and design of nature has made me understand something of the meticulous care that God has taken over creation. But beyond all that, when you look at the whole thing like you might look at a beautiful picture and say, “Oh, Wow!” You see, I talked earlier about the fact that science is to do with discovery, but you’ve got to put the whole thing together in the end. And the really discovery is this purpose business.
And so, what the Bible teaches about the power of God and what the Bible teaches about His purposes and what the Bible says about His perfection is illustrated by science. It’s brought to life by science. Of course, it’s brought to life more particularly by the God who showed Himself to me in Christ, but nevertheless the two go together in a wonderful way for me.